Bengt Nirje on Normalization

woman: Did you say there were only four people to a group home?

Bengt Nirje: No group homes. Each one receive, you have individual apartments. But you don't group more than four apartments together.

So you move people out of institutions and we provide them [Inaudible] you provide them with a little apartment like this with one bed, one bedroom, one sitting room, and a little kitchenette, and a shower. And then you do one more there and one more there and one more there. And then you have some area here for kind of an office or sitting room and so that you can share and so you keep a house. A regular house. With each one having their individual apartment.

And that's become very popular. And that's the same you can use for senior citizens or physically disabled. [Inaudible] So it's very practical. Your problem that you face is that you force people – and I had that problem in Canada, by having [Inaudible] and then you force four, six, seven, eight people to live together in a group in one room only for them and not have to be all do one thing together. That's hard. You wouldn't be able to stand living together five, six, eight people more than, yeah, you can imagine how long time that would take. I don't know.